{"id":166,"date":"2009-12-01T10:48:00","date_gmt":"2009-12-01T18:48:00","guid":{"rendered":"tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10083047.post-2950343904086200685"},"modified":"2009-12-01T10:52:14","modified_gmt":"2009-12-01T18:52:14","slug":"there-is-no-society-just-homicidal-individuals","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.razib.com\/wordpress\/2009\/12\/01\/there-is-no-society-just-homicidal-individuals\/","title":{"rendered":"There is no society, just homicidal individuals"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>There&#8217;s a new book out, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/exec\/obidos\/ASIN\/0674035208\/geneexpressio-20\">American Homicide<\/a>, which has <a href=\"http:\/\/www.sciencedaily.com\/releases\/2009\/12\/091201111204.htm?utm_source=feedburner&amp;utm_medium=feed&amp;utm_campaign=Feed:+sciencedaily+(ScienceDaily:+Latest+Science+News)&amp;utm_content=Google+Reader\">some interesting arguments<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>He concluded that people&#8217;s views about the legitimacy of government and how much they identify with their fellow citizens play a major role in how often they kill each other &#8212; much more so than the usual theories revolving around guns, poverty, drugs, race, or a permissive justice system.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;The predisposition to murder is rooted in feelings and beliefs people have toward government and their fellow citizens,&#8221; said Randolph Roth, author of the book and professor of history at Ohio State.<\/p>\n<p>&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>That includes theories held dear by both conservatives and liberals. If you look at the evidence over time, poverty and unemployment don&#8217;t lead to higher murder rates, as many liberals argue, he said. But locking up criminals, using the death penalty, and adding more police don&#8217;t hold the murder rate down either, as conservatives claim.<\/p>\n<p>&#8230;<\/p>\n<p>In his analysis, <b>Roth found four factors that relate to the homicide rate in parts of the United States and western Europe throughout the past four centuries: <\/b>the belief that one&#8217;s government is stable and its justice and legal systems are unbiased and effective; a feeling of trust in government officials and a belief in their legitimacy; a sense of patriotism and solidarity with fellow citizens; and a belief that one&#8217;s position is society is satisfactory and that one can command respect without resorting to violence.<\/p>\n<p>When those feelings and beliefs are strong, homicide rates are generally low, regardless of the time or place, Roth said. But when people are unsure about their government leaders, don&#8217;t feel connected to the rest of society, and feel they don&#8217;t have opportunity to command respect in the community, homicide rates go up.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>The main issue I have with the explanations for crime variance out there is that the 1960s spike and the 1990s abatement were synchronous internationally. So I&#8217;m skeptical of policy changes being the ultimate cause of these cycles.<\/p>\n<div class=\"blogger-post-footer\"><img width='1' height='1' src='https:\/\/blogger.googleusercontent.com\/tracker\/10083047-2950343904086200685?l=www.gnxp.com%2Fblog%2Findex.php' alt='' \/><\/div>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>There&#8217;s a new book out, American Homicide, which has some interesting arguments:He concluded that people&#8217;s views about the legitimacy of government and how much they identify with their fellow citizens play a major role in how often they kill each othe&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":3,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[73],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-166","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-crime"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.razib.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/166","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.razib.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.razib.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.razib.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/3"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.razib.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=166"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.razib.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/166\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.razib.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=166"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.razib.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=166"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.razib.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=166"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}