{"id":34284,"date":"2010-12-05T14:29:58","date_gmt":"2010-12-05T22:29:58","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blogs.discovermagazine.com\/gnxp\/?p=8185"},"modified":"2010-12-08T10:08:21","modified_gmt":"2010-12-08T18:08:21","slug":"on-that-native-american-ancestor","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.razib.com\/wordpress\/2010\/12\/05\/on-that-native-american-ancestor\/","title":{"rendered":"On that Native American ancestor"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/bga101.blogspot.com\/2010\/12\/traces-of-sub-saharan-african-and.html\">Traces of Sub-Saharan African and Amerindian admixture in old stock European Americans<\/a>:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>Some people like to overestimate extra-European admixture in old stock Americans, while others take the position that it never happened. It did happen, and I can prove it, but certainly not to a great extent, otherwise I wouldn&#8217;t be bending over backwards to find it.<\/p>\n<p>Basically, after some initial experiments,<b> I can report that Sub-Saharan African segments of around 2 megabases or more show up regularly in my Southern European, old stock American and British samples.<\/b> They&#8217;re much less common in other individuals of European origin.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Why?<br \/>\n<span id=\"more-8185\"><\/span><\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p> I believe that most of the Sub-Saharan African specific segments arrived in Southern Europe during the early middle ages, with Muslim invasions from North Africa. <b>On the other hand, in the UK they&#8217;re probably a legacy of the Roman Empire (see here) and slave trade, in which the British obviously played a major role.<\/b> I suppose I don&#8217;t have to explain how it&#8217;s possible for white Americans to carry African segments&#8230;.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>I discount the role of the Roman Empire. Rather, I think the key point is to focus on the <i>maritime<\/i> nature of Britain&#8217;s possessions, and the historically attested presence of numerous sailors from Africa and Asia in port cities in the 18th century. A good test of this would be the Netherlands, which like the United Kingdom had a far flung maritime colonial presence (<a href=\"http:\/\/4.bp.blogspot.com\/_UOHFTxL-bOA\/TOYpHMIrsVI\/AAAAAAAAAOE\/on63ho681uI\/s1600\/ADMIXTURE10.jpeg\">Portuguese<\/a> have a significant minor African ancestral contribution, but this is a somewhat different case because Portugal had African slaves in the metropole in the early modern period).<\/p>\n<p>How about Native Americans? Harder for obvious reasons:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>I&#8217;ve also spotted Amerindian and North Eurasian segments in some samples. These are much tougher to discover using the rare HET\/HOM method, simply because Europeans are Eurasians, and more similar to Asians (and thus Amerindians) than to Sub-Saharan Africans. However, with careful (ie. painstaking) work at SPSmart it is possible to isolate such sequences and run a successful MDS analysis, like below (which admittedly does look a bit more fuzzy than the one above, due to a lower nmber of SNPs used).<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>It seems likely that it is going to be harder to make definitive assessments about <i>individuals<\/i>, but, one can be confident that there are trace but non-trivial elements of African and Native American ancestry among &#8220;Old Americans.&#8221; That is, those whose ancestors arrived in the USA before the Revolutionary War, and so have roots in this continent when Native Americans (and Africans as well) were a substantially higher proportion of the human population.<\/p>\n<p>It&#8217;s pretty awesome that all this is being done by a self-described amateur. With the emergence of <a href=\"http:\/\/genomesunzipped.com\/\">Genomes Unzipped<\/a>, <a href=\"htt:\/\/dodecad.blogspot.com\">Dodecad<\/a>, and <a href=\"http:\/\/bga101.blogspot.com\/\">BGA<\/a> we&#8217;re in a new era (and thanks to all the researchers who contribute software like <a href=\"http:\/\/www.genetics.ucla.edu\/software\/admixture\/\">ADMIXTURE<\/a> to the public tool base).<\/p>\n<p>As thanks for the all hard work and transparency of method of the principal behind <a href=\"http:\/\/bga101.blogspot.com\/\">BGA<\/a>  I&#8217;ve dropped a tip into his <a href=\"https:\/\/www.paypal.com\/au\/cgi-bin\/webscr?cmd=_flow&#038;SESSION=aRCmyKbOVFMR8z7nSVyUYmFgP7yf7w0_g9yT4OfXRJ9AEZlavcP90hhdepm&#038;%23038;dispatch=5885d80a13c0db1f8e263663d3faee8d9384d85353843a619606282818e091d0\">PayPal account<\/a>. I know this sort of analysis requires some serious investment of time, but I suspect that these early projects will have a positive spillover effect, showing the intelligent and curious public what can be done with a little perseverance and effort.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"http:\/\/feeds.feedburner.com\/~r\/GeneExpressionBlog\/~4\/oSnc1sh9PNc\" height=\"1\" width=\"1\"\/><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Traces of Sub-Saharan African and Amerindian admixture in old stock European Americans:<br \/>\nSome people like to overestimate extra-European admixture in old stock Americans, while others take the position that it never happened. It did happen, and I can prove it, but certainly not to a great extent, otherwise I wouldn&#8217;t be bending over backwards to find [&#8230;]<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":12,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[4,82,360,867],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-34284","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-genetics","category-genomics","category-personal-genomics","category-scientific-genealogy"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.razib.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/34284","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.razib.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.razib.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.razib.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/12"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.razib.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=34284"}],"version-history":[{"count":8,"href":"https:\/\/www.razib.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/34284\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":34495,"href":"https:\/\/www.razib.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/34284\/revisions\/34495"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.razib.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=34284"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.razib.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=34284"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.razib.com\/wordpress\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=34284"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}