{"id":99996,"date":"2017-05-01T21:16:50","date_gmt":"2017-05-02T05:16:50","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/gnxp.nofe.me\/?p=174833"},"modified":"2017-05-01T21:16:50","modified_gmt":"2017-05-02T05:16:50","slug":"on-understanding-the-algebra-of-history","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.razib.com\/wordpress\/2017\/05\/01\/on-understanding-the-algebra-of-history\/","title":{"rendered":"On understanding the algebra of history"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/exec\/obidos\/ASIN\/0452288193\/geneexpressio-20\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignright wp-image-174837\" src=\"http:\/\/nofe.me\/razib\/WordPress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/featured.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"300\" height=\"460\" \/><\/a>Over the years I&#8217;ve convinced many people to read Scott Atran&#8217;s <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/exec\/obidos\/ASIN\/0195149300\/geneexpressio-20\">In God&#8217;s We Trust<\/a>. Why? <b>Because it gives you a basic framework for understanding and interpreting religious phenomena.<\/b><\/p>\n<p>The cognitive anthropological toolkit does not give you the total resources of decomposing religious phenomena. But, it is probably a necessary toolkit to begin at the process of carving it up tractably. And since people talk about religion constantly I think it is important that learn to talk about it more rationally and empirically.<\/p>\n<p><strong>I believe my friend <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/Peter-Turchin\/e\/B001IU2M2K\/geneexpressio-20\">Peter Turchin<\/a> is doing something similar with <a href=\"http:\/\/escholarship.org\/uc\/irows_cliodynamics\">cliodynamics<\/a>, which attempts to model history formally and quantitatively.<\/strong> Unlike classical cliometric analysis, which was mostly descriptive, Peter attempts to construct models which make predictions which can be tested.<\/p>\n<p>Of course to test these models you need well organized data. To do this he has been instrumental in pushing forward the <a href=\"http:\/\/seshatdatabank.info\/\">Seshat: Global History Databank<\/a> (which I have supported with a <a href=\"https:\/\/evolution-institute.org\/seshat\/?page=CiviCRM&amp;q=civicrm\/contribute\/transact&amp;reset=1&amp;id=8\">donation<\/a>).<\/p>\n<p>Cliodynamics is a few decades behind cognitive anthropology as a field. I&#8217;m still following it closely because it hasn&#8217;t hit the point of diminishing returns for me yet.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/exec\/obidos\/ASIN\/0691116695\/geneexpressio-20\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft wp-image-174838\" src=\"http:\/\/nofe.me\/razib\/WordPress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2017\/05\/k7690.gif\" alt=\"\" width=\"150\" height=\"228\" \/><\/a>I&#8217;m putting this post up mostly because on Twitter someone mentioned offhand that more people should know of Peter&#8217;s work.<\/p>\n<p>Well, here I am boosting him up a bit! Of his books, I&#8217;ve read three related to history, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/exec\/obidos\/ASIN\/0452288193\/geneexpressio-20\">War and Peace and War: The Rise and Fall of Empires<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/exec\/obidos\/ASIN\/0691116695\/geneexpressio-20\">Historical Dynamics: Why States Rise and Fall<\/a>, and <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/exec\/obidos\/ASIN\/0691136963\/geneexpressio-20\">Secular Cycles<\/a>. For those who are curious about Peter&#8217;s ecological scholarship, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.amazon.com\/exec\/obidos\/ASIN\/0691090203\/geneexpressio-20\">Complex Population Dynamics<\/a> may be of interest.<\/p>\n<p>Also, here are my <a href=\"http:\/\/www.gnxp.com\/blog\/2010\/02\/10-questions-for-peter-turchin.php\">10 questions for Peter Turchin<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>And of course, you should checkout <a href=\"http:\/\/peterturchin.com\/cliodynamica\/\">his website<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><a class=\"a2a_button_facebook\" href=\"http:\/\/www.addtoany.com\/add_to\/facebook?linkurl=http%3A%2F%2Fgnxp.nofe.me%2F2017%2F05%2F01%2Fon-understanding-the-algebra-of-history%2F&amp;linkname=On%20understanding%20the%20algebra%20of%20history\" title=\"Facebook\" rel=\"nofollow\" ><\/a><a class=\"a2a_button_twitter\" href=\"http:\/\/www.addtoany.com\/add_to\/twitter?linkurl=http%3A%2F%2Fgnxp.nofe.me%2F2017%2F05%2F01%2Fon-understanding-the-algebra-of-history%2F&amp;linkname=On%20understanding%20the%20algebra%20of%20history\" title=\"Twitter\" rel=\"nofollow\" ><\/a><a class=\"a2a_button_google_plus\" href=\"http:\/\/www.addtoany.com\/add_to\/google_plus?linkurl=http%3A%2F%2Fgnxp.nofe.me%2F2017%2F05%2F01%2Fon-understanding-the-algebra-of-history%2F&amp;linkname=On%20understanding%20the%20algebra%20of%20history\" title=\"Google+\" rel=\"nofollow\" ><\/a><a class=\"a2a_dd addtoany_share_save\" href=\"https:\/\/www.addtoany.com\/share#url=http%3A%2F%2Fgnxp.nofe.me%2F2017%2F05%2F01%2Fon-understanding-the-algebra-of-history%2F&amp;title=On%20understanding%20the%20algebra%20of%20history\" data-a2a-url=\"http:\/\/gnxp.nofe.me\/2017\/05\/01\/on-understanding-the-algebra-of-history\/\" data-a2a-title=\"On understanding the algebra of history\"><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Over the years I&rsquo;ve convinced many people to read Scott Atran&rsquo;s In God&rsquo;s We Trust. 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